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January 6, 2012

AFR #164 – Casual casualties

Filed under: Uncategorized — Tags: , , , — tabulacandida @ 1:36 PM

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All right, listen up, you tiny but vocal minority who have been whining about how Raid Finder sucks because it lets people who aren’t as hardcore as you experience raid content and that’s not fair because it takes away from your special snowflakeness and they don’t deserve it and they’re not playing the real game and blah blah blah-de-frikin’-blah.

Get over yourselves.  Raiding is not a reward you get for being extra super-duper leet with a cherry on top.  Raiding is part of the game and if people who never had the opportunity to raid before are now getting the chance to raid, that’s a good thing.  Fun is not some limited commodity.  If more people are having fun, that doesn’t make the fun you have in your regular/heroic/achievement/world-first runs any less real.

And don’t try to play the more-hardcore-than-thou card.  You will lose.  I don’t care about your world-first heroic run with achievements.  Somewhere out there someone is leveling from 1 to 85 without training any spells after level 5, without picking a spec or assigning any talent points, leaving exactly one area undiscovered in every zone, only doing quests that have a palindrome in the title and only killing mobs whose names can be typed using the top row of a Dvorak keyboard.  Why?  Because she can.  And you will never be that hardcore, never.


  1. I am commenting only to say, Thank you for including in the list of hardcore behaviours “without picking a spec or assigning any talent points.” I was that person, and my boyfriend made fun of me for doing that. We were leveling characters together, and he thought it was just terrible that I wouldn’t spec, and now we don’t play those characters anymore. It’s nice to know someone understands what I was doing.

    Comment by Bobbi — January 7, 2012 @ 8:59 PM

    • I completely understand. I’ve never done it quite that way myself, but I’ve had plenty of fun playing this game and many others the way I decided to, rather than the way I was “supposed” to. Some of us don’t believe that fun can be measured on a dps chart. /Salute to you for making your own fun.

      (And, for what it’s worth, Mrs. AFR recommends changing boyfriends. 😉 )

      Comment by wowafr — January 7, 2012 @ 9:48 PM

      • Haha, well we’ve been together three and a half years and in that time we’ve leveled another pair of characters together, and played even more characters together without playing with each other. We’ve also spent most of our time away from the game, of course, and by now I’m pretty sure I’m going to stick with this boyfriend, absolute pill that he is. ;P

        Comment by Bobbi — January 10, 2012 @ 2:23 AM

  2. I love all off AFR, but this one reached into my heart and gave the little WoW noob living inside a hug, pat on the head, and a cookie. I stopped playing not long after Cataclysm came out, but I’ve started playing again after deciding I’d play for fun. Am I leveling my hunter just to have more options for role playing gear? Yes. Did I spec into subtlety on my rogue just to go *POOF* to appear behind things before I kill them? Absolutely. When you pay to play a game, then you should play how you want. So thanks for reminding us that games are for fun. 🙂

    Comment by Mona — January 7, 2012 @ 11:07 PM

    • We could all use more hugs, pats on the head, and cookies. I’m so glad to have been able to provide. It sounds like you know what makes the game work for you and you go for it, so cheers for you, and thanks for being a fan!

      And, for the record, I want to say that I have no problem at all with the people who find their fun in WoW by doing hard-core, cutting-edge raiding. Absolutely nothing against that. The only people I have a beef with are the noisy few– be they raiders, pvpers, role-players, achievementers, or what have you– who think that everyone else’s experience in the game should be measured only by their standards of fun.

      Comment by wowafr — January 8, 2012 @ 1:26 PM

      • yes. and those noisy few who define “fun” as “making other people feel inferior for not playing to my standards.”
        those are the people who remind me that /ignore exists for a reason, and why /leave trade is the first thing I do upon reaching any city, on any character.

        Comment by ayshela — January 8, 2012 @ 3:15 PM

  3. Heh. Never gone quite THAT far, but I’ve pulled minor stuff like leveling a druid who only bought her first mount when she needed it for one of the Winter’s Veil achievements, extreme soloing on my hunter, and ALL of my toons have picked their talent trees because they fit the toon rather than ‘because it’s the highest dps’. And, uh, went back to EPL after my first Arthas kill in order to let little Pamela Redpath know. /red-faced.

    Comment by Moria — January 9, 2012 @ 1:28 PM

    • oh Awesome. I’m glad you brought Pamela a bit of peace. ❤

      Comment by ayshela — January 10, 2012 @ 1:56 AM

    • Good on you for going back to little Pamela. That quest broke my heart when I first stumbled on it.

      And I’m with you on talent trees: I have never picked specs for their dps. There is no Recount for how much you are enjoying playing your character.

      Comment by wowafr — January 11, 2012 @ 12:43 PM

  4. > “Somewhere out there someone is leveling from 1 to 85 without training any spells after level 5”

    Back in June, WoW Insider featured someone who did that:

    Comment by Aaron — January 12, 2012 @ 1:48 AM

    • Actually, that story inspired a bundle of people to do the same. I know of at least 5 (across 3 servers) who have done the same, and enjoyed their nice pile of gold at the end.
      Still, that would probably turn me away, and I’d say it’s on a similar level to leveling only using white hits as a mage… too tedious for myself!

      Comment by Robert — January 14, 2012 @ 12:44 PM

  5. Heroic modes are usually a whole different ballpark and while I do expect the top tier guilds to clear multiple heroic modes next week, the field will greatly separate. Top tier guilds will forge ahead, guilds like mine can aspire to clear at least a few heroic modes, casual-hardcores will perhaps clear one and the vast majority of raiders will still be working on normal modes.

    Comment by mercadeo internet — January 24, 2012 @ 1:06 AM

  6. It’s a mentality I’ll never understand, right up there with “how dare you wear that [fandom] T-shirt without proving that you have exhaustive knowledge of [xyz]”.

    And I picked barrage as my level 90 talent, to the dismay of Nephew (he insisted glaive toss was superior), because I liked my hunter going, basically, “pew pew pew!!” 😉

    Comment by ButMadNNW — August 1, 2013 @ 5:06 AM

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